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| paroyboy | 30th March 2007 22:23 |
New (to me) RS Muffler
Drove to NJ today and picked up a RS from member Sic. Got back home, waited the required 5 minutes before I couldnt take it anymore and got to work! Man, those rubber hangers are miserable! Old one off, new one on....didnt sound much different. Went for a ride with the top down, then up. I couldnt hear a drone but also didnt hear much "noise" either. Came back, took out the baffles......Yeah Baby! Now it sounds like I hoped it would. Only took it for about a 5 minute ride but I think I can live with it. Two questions:
1. is it ok to put just one of the baffles in one side to tone the sound down just a little?
2. The gasket doesnt quite seal. Can feel just a small amount of air coming out around the joint. Do I remember someone saying there was a new and improved gasket available?
| Al | 30th March 2007 22:31 |
I don't know about a new and improved gasket, but as for the baffles yes it's okay to have one installed and the other one removed.
| sic | 30th March 2007 22:32 |
Quote:
Originally Posted by paroyboy
Drove to NJ today and picked up a RS from member Sic.
Hey, glad to hear its on already and working out for you !!
Sic
| al1en | 30th March 2007 22:33 |
Just use the original gasket if you are having problems. I think that's what everyone else has done.
| Lateral | 30th March 2007 22:35 |
Try to get that gasket sealed by loosening, adjusting, and retightened. You can roll with one baffle. Congrats!
John
| Bill Kille | 30th March 2007 22:35 |
I've had the RS muffler for some time. Recently I installed the mid-pipe and noticed
that I'd also had a leak. The guy whose shop we were working in had a tube of
something that looked like toothpaste that he applied on the gasket area before
attaching mid-pipe and muffler. Seems to have sealed O.K.
I run with both baffles out so I can't answer your question about only running with
one in place.
If/when you ever get fooling with the hangers again, try some liquid dishwasher
soap on them, works wonders.
| dwest1023 | 30th March 2007 23:38 |
Quote:
Originally Posted by paroyboy
Drove to NJ today and picked up a RS from member Sic. Got back home, waited the required 5 minutes before I couldnt take it anymore and got to work! Man, those rubber hangers are miserable! Old one off, new one on....didnt sound much different. Went for a ride with the top down, then up. I couldnt hear a drone but also didnt hear much "noise" either. Came back, took out the baffles......Yeah Baby! Now it sounds like I hoped it would. Only took it for about a 5 minute ride but I think I can live with it. Two questions:
1. is it ok to put just one of the baffles in one side to tone the sound down just a little?
2. The gasket doesnt quite seal. Can feel just a small amount of air coming out around the joint. Do I remember someone saying there was a new and improved gasket available?
I had the same problem with the gasket. I just reused the old one; Problem solved.
| Mr Edison | 30th March 2007 23:44 |
I coated both sides of gasket with muffler sealant with no leaks.
| jebinc | 31st March 2007 00:53 |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Al
I don't know about a new and improved gasket, but as for the baffles yes it's okay to have one installed and the other one removed.
Bet that looks great (semi industrial) from the rear :confused: :confused:
| paroyboy | 31st March 2007 01:34 |
I dont think it would be noticeable at all. The baffles sit a couple of inches inside the tip with the narrow part way back in the pipe.
| speedy400 | 31st March 2007 02:02 |
Quote:
Originally Posted by paroyboy
Drove to NJ today and picked up a RS from member Sic. Got back home, waited the required 5 minutes before I couldnt take it anymore and got to work! Man, those rubber hangers are miserable! Old one off, new one on....didnt sound much different. Went for a ride with the top down, then up. I couldnt hear a drone but also didnt hear much "noise" either. Came back, took out the baffles......Yeah Baby! Now it sounds like I hoped it would. Only took it for about a 5 minute ride but I think I can live with it.
Glad you like it. Did you try WD-40 or soapy water on the hangers? Also, humfrz's trick with a small piece of wood to coax the hangers off? That combo works like a dream. My muffler can come off in just a few minutes.
It takes about 20-30 minutes of driving before I notice the sound of the muffler get more aggressive ... and to get the drone. Have you driven it that long yet?
| paroyboy | 31st March 2007 10:28 |
OK, this morning took it for a breakfast run. The baffles might have to go back in. (at least when the sig. other is in the car!) I'm assuming with the top up, it allows more sound to make it into the car? Seemed alot louder this morning with the top up than yesterday with the top down. This mornings ride was about 30 minutes so maybe thats the difference. I like it but might have to tone it down for the other.
| speedy400 | 31st March 2007 10:33 |
You absolutely need the good 30 minutes to hear the sound increase. It has been fairly consistent among RS/RB guys here.
| mx52go | 31st March 2007 10:41 |
I have the Roadstersport too (like so many others :cool: ) and have always used it with both baffles in. It sounds very close to stock, but the look is much improved. I prefer the larger diameter tail pipes. Any time I see a car with dual exhaust ,and they are some little pea shooter... I have to ask "why?". Honda tends to be a good example. The Accord V6 has small twin pipes. If ya have the power to back it up, why not look the part?
BTW Paroybot - glad you have found the enjoyment of the RS too.
| humfrz | 31st March 2007 10:55 |
Quote:
Originally Posted by paroyboy
OK, this morning took it for a breakfast run. The baffles might have to go back in. (at least when the sig. other is in the car!)......I like it but might have to tone it down for the other.
paroyboy, congratulations and welcome to the "RoadsterSport Sound". It sounds like you have an S/O with sensitive ears, soooooo.........you may consider investing in a set of glass packed baffles for your co-pilot or for both of you, for long "top up" drives.
http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda.../60-1324b.html
Then when to weather clears (or warms up) during the day, you can jump out and with a flick of the wrist, whip out the baffles and .. let er rip :D
humfrz
| jebinc | 31st March 2007 10:57 |
Quote:
Originally Posted by speedy400
You absolutely need the good 30 minutes to hear the sound increase. It has been fairly consistent among RS/RB guys here.
Absolutely true! You must take that bad boy out for a 30 spirited drive with the top up. Then vote and comment in this poll!
http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread...hlight=exhaust
Good luck with your RS. :wave:
| Ronbo | 31st March 2007 10:58 |
Some hi-temp silicon on both sides of the gasket will also stop the leak.
| jebinc | 31st March 2007 11:10 |
I still struggle with the question why folks buy these exhausts only to spend more money and effort to quiet them with baffles, etc.? On top of that, the look of the tips, with the baffles in, is less than steller IMO. At the end of the day, you've spent $400 for a well made stainless steel exhaust, that may have some undesireable tones, and looks somewhat industrial from the rear... Why?
| sloopercat | 31st March 2007 11:27 |
I run with one baffle, it really cuts down the deccel boom on mine. As you said, that muffler does not drone. The other baffle, I cut off the narrow tube and installed it to match the other side. With the RS mid-pipe installed, it is near perfect.
| humfrz | 31st March 2007 11:47 |
Quote:
Originally Posted by jebinc
I still struggle with the question why folks buy these exhausts only to spend more money and effort to quiet them with baffles, etc.? On top of that, the look of the tips, with the baffles in, is less than steller IMO. At the end of the day, you've spent $400 for a well made stainless steel exhaust, that may have some undesireable tones, and looks somewhat industrial from the rear... Why?
Well jebinc, I won't speak for the other "you folks", however, I reckon my aberration started way back on the farm in Ohio, while I was in my mothers womb. I was told that my mother, when she was pregnant with me, had to help out with the field work by driving a John Deere tractor with no muffler.... :(
humfrz
| RealtorBob | 31st March 2007 11:56 |
Perfect muffler
Why can't they just make a muffler that's Perfect without having to replace or remove baffles or pipes, and still have a "Great Sound" without the "Boy Racer" noise.
Manufacturers Take Note if your listening!
Bob
| sloopercat | 31st March 2007 12:05 |
Quote:
Originally Posted by RealtorBob
Why can't they just make a muffler that's Perfect without having to replace or remove baffles or pipes, and still have a "Great Sound" without the "Boy Racer" noise.
Manufacturers Take Note if your listening!
Bob
Beauty is in the ears of the beholder, the beauty of the RS is that it CAN be custom tuned. Your idea of perfection may be perversion to me.
| humfrz | 31st March 2007 12:06 |
Quote:
Originally Posted by RealtorBob
Why can't they just make a muffler that's Perfect without having to replace or remove baffles or pipes, and still have a "Great Sound" without the "Boy Racer" noise.
Manufacturers Take Note if your listening!
Bob
They did, Bob, it came in the form of dual exhaust with glass packed mufflers behind a 1956 Ford OHV V-8. :)
humfrz
| RealtorBob | 31st March 2007 12:11 |
Yeah
Yeah I know Sloopercat, some people want a muffler ya can hear 1/4 of a mile away. But I was just saying why not make one that sounds good but yet is not so loud that its offensive to most people and the Highway Patrol
Bob.
| RealtorBob | 31st March 2007 12:13 |
Yup
Hey humfrz, Your RIGHT!!!!! I had a 55 T-Bird with glass packs. The sound was perfect.
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